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Goober: /* Map Limits */

2026-04-14T18:21:30Z

Map Limits

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	\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)		\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)
	\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.		\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.
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	\| Killable objects		\| Killable objects
	\| 3200		\| 3200

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Map Limits

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	\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)		\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)
	\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.		\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.
			\| Killable objects
			\| 3200
			\| Includes all destructible clutter and mesh objects. Only applies in multiplayer.
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	\|}		\|}

Goober: /* Savegame Format Limits */

2026-01-18T14:10:33Z

Savegame Format Limits

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	\| ~~"Other"~~ events		\| All other events with pending resolution
	\| 32		\| 32
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Goober at 13:45, 17 May 2025

2025-05-17T13:45:39Z

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	* There's no guarantee that your map won't perform poorly or crash for other reasons, even if these limits have not been explicitly exceeded.		* There's no guarantee that your map won't perform poorly or crash for other reasons, even if these limits have not been explicitly exceeded.
	* Please note that only a few of these limits were officially documented by Volition, the rest were discovered through experimentation. It's possible additional limits exist that should be added to this list, we just haven't found them yet.		* Please note that only a few of these limits were officially documented by Volition, the rest were discovered through experimentation. It's possible additional limits exist that should be added to this list, we just haven't found them yet.
	* The de facto standard RF server and client version [[~~Dash~~ Faction]] removes or increases a number of these limits.		* The de facto standard RF server and client version [[Alpine Faction]] removes or increases a number of these limits.
	** In cases where [[Dash Faction]] has removed or increased a limit, the default limit is indicated with (RF), and the Dash Faction ~~limit is~~ indicated with (DF).		** In cases where [[Alpine Faction]] and/or [[Dash Faction]] has removed or increased a limit, the default limit is indicated with (RF), and the Alpine and Dash Faction limits are indicated with (AF) and (DF) respectively.

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	\|-		\|-
	\| [[RED Objects\|Objects]]		\| [[RED Objects\|Objects]]
	\| 1024 (RF), 65536 (DF)		\| 1024 (RF), 65536 (AF/DF)
	\| General limit on total objects - note though that not all object types count toward this limit. Entities, corpses, clutter, items, triggers, events, keyframes, targets, and possibly more, all do.		\| General limit on total objects - note though that not all object types count toward this limit. Entities, corpses, clutter, items, triggers, events, keyframes, targets, and possibly more, all do.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Corpses		\| Corpses
	\| 30 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\| 30 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\| Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.		\| Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.
	\|-		\|-
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	\|-		\|-
	\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level		\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level
	\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (DF)		\| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)
	\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. ~~[[Dash Faction]] has~~ 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-~~Dash~~), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.		\| Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.<br />For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.<br />Additional limits:<br />Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)<br />Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)<br />In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.
	\|}		\|}

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	\| Bullets/Projectiles		\| Bullets/Projectiles
	\| Unknown (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\| Unknown (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\| Produced by weapon fire (players and AI). Exists until the $Lifetime value is exceeded, the bullet impacts something, or the projectile explodes.		\| Produced by weapon fire (players and AI). Exists until the $Lifetime value is exceeded, the bullet impacts something, or the projectile explodes.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Loaded Packfiles		\| Loaded Packfiles
	\| 256 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\| 256 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\| Includes all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. These are used to store custom maps, clientside mods, etc. Without ~~Dash Faction~~, the game will ignore any .vpp packfiles after the 256th.		\| Includes all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. These are used to store custom maps, clientside mods, etc. Without AF or DF, the game will ignore any .vpp packfiles after the 256th.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Files within Packfiles		\| Files within Packfiles
	\| 13500 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\| 13500 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\| Includes all files within all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. Without ~~Dash Faction~~, the game will stop loading files in packfiles after the 13500th.		\| Includes all files within all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. Without AF or DF, the game will stop loading files in packfiles after the 13500th.
	\|-		\|-
	\|}		\|}
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	\|[[RED Objects\|Objects]]		\|[[RED Objects\|Objects]]
	\| ---		\| ---
	\|1024 (RF), 65536 (DF)		\|1024 (RF), 65536 (AF/DF)
	\|Elements with "Yes" in the "Object" column all count toward this limit. Some objects also have their own specific limits.		\|Elements with "Yes" in the "Object" column all count toward this limit. Some objects also have their own specific limits.
	\|-		\|-
	\|Bullets/Projectiles		\|Bullets/Projectiles
	\|Yes		\|Yes
	\|Unknown (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\|Unknown (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\|Produced by weapon fire (players and AI). Exists until the $Lifetime value is exceeded, the bullet impacts something, or the projectile explodes.		\|Produced by weapon fire (players and AI). Exists until the $Lifetime value is exceeded, the bullet impacts something, or the projectile explodes.
	\|-		\|-
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	\|Corpses		\|Corpses
	\|Yes		\|Yes
	\|30 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\|30 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\|Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.		\|Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.
	\|-		\|-
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	\|Loaded Packfiles		\|Loaded Packfiles
	\|No		\|No
	\|256 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\|256 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\|Includes all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. These are used to store custom maps, clientside mods, etc. Without ~~Dash Faction~~, the game will ignore any .vpp packfiles after the 256th.		\|Includes all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. These are used to store custom maps, clientside mods, etc. Without AF or DF, the game will ignore any .vpp packfiles after the 256th.
	\|-		\|-
	\|Files within Packfiles		\|Files within Packfiles
	\|No		\|No
	\|13500 (RF), Unlimited (DF)		\|13500 (RF), Unlimited (AF/DF)
	\|Includes all files within all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. Without ~~Dash Faction~~, the game will stop loading files in packfiles after the 13500th.		\|Includes all files within all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. Without AF or DF, the game will stop loading files in packfiles after the 13500th.
	\|-		\|-
	\|Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level		\|Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level
	\|No		\|No
	\|96/128 (RF), 384/512 (DF)		\|96/128 (RF), 384/512 (AF/DF)
	\|		\|
	*Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.		*Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit.
	*For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. ~~[[Dash Faction]] has~~ 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.		*For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. AF and DF have 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit.
	*Additional limits:		*Additional limits:
	**Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF)		**Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)
	**Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (DF)		**Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (AF/DF)
	**Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (DF)		**Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)
	**Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF)		**Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (AF/DF)
	*In the default [[RED]] editor (non-~~Dash~~), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.		*In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Alpine), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.
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	\|}--->		\|}--->
	[[Category: Red Faction]]		[[Category: Red Faction]]
	[[Category: RF1 Editing]]		[[Category: RF1 Editing]]

Goober: /* Savegame Format Limits */

2024-08-23T17:55:16Z

Savegame Format Limits

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	\| Emitters		\| Bolt Emitters
	\| 16		\| 16
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Goober: /* Map Limits */

2024-03-13T09:42:21Z

Map Limits

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	\| Green/red boxes around switches		\| Green/red boxes around switches
	\| 32		\| 32
	\| If you have more than 32 switches in your map that should have green/red boxes, the box will only appear for ~~the first~~ 32 of them (the others will continue to function properly, just without the visible box).		\| If you have more than 32 switches in your map that should have green/red boxes, the box will only appear for 32 of them (the others will continue to function properly, just without the visible box).
	\|-		\|-
	\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level		\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level

Goober: /* Map Limits */

2024-03-13T00:38:54Z

Map Limits

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	\| 128		\| 128
	\| If you exceed 128 particle emitters, your level file will become corrupt.		\| If you exceed 128 particle emitters, your level file will become corrupt.
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			\| Green/red boxes around switches
			\| 32
			\| If you have more than 32 switches in your map that should have green/red boxes, the box will only appear for the first 32 of them (the others will continue to function properly, just without the visible box).
	\|-		\|-
	\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level		\| Total [[RED Objects#Decal\|Decals]] in a level

Goober at 17:17, 28 January 2024

2024-01-28T17:17:28Z

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	{{~~Template:RF1Editing~~}}		{{BubbleNav\|RF1Modding}}

	This page lists all known limitations of the GeoMod engine and maps built using [[RED]] level editor.		This page lists all known limitations of the GeoMod engine and maps built using [[RED]] level editor.

Goober: /* Map Limits */

2023-07-11T12:24:30Z

Map Limits

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	\| Ambient sounds		\| Ambient sounds
	\| 25		\| 25
	\| Maximum number of ambient sounds that can ~~exist~~ simultaneously. Includes both [[RED Objects#Ambient Sound\|Ambient Sound objects]] and entity fly sounds as specified by "$FlySnd" in [[entity.tbl]]. When limit is reached, newly created ambient sounds will not play.		\| Maximum number of ambient sounds that can play simultaneously. Includes both [[RED Objects#Ambient Sound\|Ambient Sound objects]] and entity fly sounds as specified by "$FlySnd" in [[entity.tbl]]. When limit is reached, newly created ambient sounds will not play.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Faces/Polygons		\| Faces/Polygons

Goober: /* Map Limits */

2023-07-11T12:24:08Z

Map Limits

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	\| Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.		\| Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Ambient~~/Flying entity~~ sounds		\| Ambient sounds
	\| 25		\| 25
	\| Maximum number of ambient sounds and ~~flying~~ entity sounds ~~that can exist before engine refuses to~~ play ~~anymore~~.		\| Maximum number of ambient sounds that can exist simultaneously. Includes both [[RED Objects#Ambient Sound\|Ambient Sound objects]] and entity fly sounds as specified by "$FlySnd" in [[entity.tbl]]. When limit is reached, newly created ambient sounds will not play.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Faces/Polygons		\| Faces/Polygons