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RF1 Engine and Level Editor Limits

2023-07-08T04:42:55Z

MartianMadman: Add ambient sound limit

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This page lists all known limitations of the GeoMod engine and maps built using [[RED]] level editor.

==Map Limits==
* This table lists all known limits that you need to keep in mind when making any type of level.
* There's no guarantee that your map won't perform poorly or crash for other reasons, even if these limits have not been explicitly exceeded.
* Please note that only a few of these limits were officially documented by Volition, the rest were discovered through experimentation. It's possible additional limits exist that should be added to this list, we just haven't found them yet.
* The de facto standard RF server and client version [[Dash Faction]] removes or increases a number of these limits.
** In cases where [[Dash Faction]] has removed or increased a limit, the default limit is indicated with (RF), and the Dash Faction limit is indicated with (DF).

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! '''Element'''
! '''Limit'''
! '''Notes'''
|-
| [[RED Objects|Objects]]
| 1024 (RF), 65536 (DF)
| General limit on total objects - note though that not all object types count toward this limit. Entities, corpses, clutter, items, triggers, events, keyframes, targets, and possibly more, all do.
|-
| Corpses
| 30 (RF), Unlimited (DF)
| Dead entities in corpse pose. Counts both pre-placed corpses and corpses created by entities dying during gameplay.
|-
| Ambient/Flying entity sounds
| 25
| Maximum number of ambient sounds and flying entity sounds that can exist before engine refuses to play anymore.
|-
| Faces/Polygons
| 10500
| Counts all polygons on geometry (brushes) in a level. Note that this is a "soft limit", and nothing bad will necessarily happen simply as a result of exceeding this limit. (the RED console will turn red in color, though)
|-
| Face Vertices
| 50400
| Note that this is a "soft limit", and nothing bad will necessarily happen simply as a result of exceeding this limit. (the RED console will turn red in color, though)
|-
| Vertices
| 13650
| Counts all vertices on geometry (brushes) in a level. Note that this is a "soft limit", and nothing bad will necessarily happen simply as a result of exceeding this limit. (the RED console will turn red in color, though)
|-
| [[RED Objects#Light|Lights]]
| 1100
| RED will crash if this limit is exceeded.
|-
| Lights on a surface
| 64
| If more than 64 lights are attempting to illuminate a single surface, that surface will turn pink. You can fix this by reducing the number of lights affecting the surface, or breaking up the surface so it's more than a single lightmap. Note that coplanar faces are merged together at build time to form a single surface, so if you're attempting to break it up for this reason, you must either use portals, or create a minor change in elevation. Also note that the true area of effect for a spotlight is based up on the range being used to determine the diameter (diameter = range X 2).
|-
| [[RED Objects#Item|Items]]
| 200
| Includes pickups, CTF flags/bases, CTF banners, etc. If you exceed 200 items, the game will stop creating them after the 200th. Dropped items by killed players/AI also count as objects, but don't count toward the 200 item limit.
|-
| [[RED Objects#Multiplayer Respawn Point|Multiplayer Respawn Points]]
| 32
| If you exceed 32 multiplayer respawn points, the game will ignore any beyond the 32nd.
|-
| [[RED Objects#Particle Emitter|Particle Emitters]]
| 128
| If you exceed 128 particle emitters, your level file will become corrupt.
|-
| Total [[RED Objects#Decal|Decals]] in a level
| 96/128 (RF), 384/512 (DF)
| *Hard limit is absolute maximum number of decals. Soft limit is the limit after which decals begin to fade away. For decal objects placed in the editor, decals will stop being created after soft limit, and you risk level file corruption if you exceed hard limit. *For total number of decals, stock game has 96 soft limit, 128 hard limit. [[Dash Faction]] has 384 soft limit, 512 hard limit. *Additional limits: **Total decals in a single room: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF) **Total weapon impact decals: 14/16 (RF), 48/64 (DF) **Total GeoMod decals: 30/32 (RF), 96/127 (DF) **Total decals on solids: 40/48 (RF), 96/127 (DF) *In the default [[RED]] editor (non-Dash), you'll get a pop-up warning when saving your level if it contains >64 decal objects. This was a hard limit for PS2 maps.
|}

==Savegame Format Limits==
* This table lists all limits specific to the savegame file format.
* If you exceed these limits, your map may still initially load correctly, but players will experience issues when using the savegame system (including quicksaves and autosaves). For this reason, you should ensure any single player maps you create do not exceed these limits.
* For multiplayer maps, you can effectively ignore this table.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! '''Element'''
! '''Limit'''
! '''Notes'''
|-
| Goal_Create events
| 8
|
|-
| Alarm_Siren events
| 8
|
|-
| When_Dead events
| 20
|
|-
| Cyclic_Timer events
| 12
|
|-
| Make_Invulnerable events
| 8
|
|-
| "Other" events
| 32
|
|-
| Emitters
| 16
|
|-
| Decals
| 64
|
|-
| Entities
| 64
|
|-
| Items
| 64
|
|-
| Clutter
| 512
|
|-
| Triggers
| 96
|
|-
| Movers
| 128
|
|-
| Push regions
| 32
|
|-
| Persistent goals
| 10
|
|-
| Weapons
| 8
|
|-
| Blood pools
| 16
|
|-
| Corpses
| 32
|
|-
| Geomod craters
| 128
|
|-
| Killed rooms
| 128
|
|-
| Deleted events
| 32
|
|}

==General Engine Limits==
* This table lists game and engine limits that aren't specific to any of the other limit categories above.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! '''Element'''
! '''Limit'''
! '''Notes'''
|-
| Bullets/Projectiles
| Unknown (RF), Unlimited (DF)
| Produced by weapon fire (players and AI). Exists until the $Lifetime value is exceeded, the bullet impacts something, or the projectile explodes.
|-
| Loaded Packfiles
| 256 (RF), Unlimited (DF)
| Includes all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. These are used to store custom maps, clientside mods, etc. Without Dash Faction, the game will ignore any .vpp packfiles after the 256th.
|-
| Files within Packfiles
| 13500 (RF), Unlimited (DF)
| Includes all files within all .vpp packfiles loaded by the game. Without Dash Faction, the game will stop loading files in packfiles after the 13500th.
|-
|}


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Red Faction II FAQ

2022-10-25T02:28:13Z

MartianMadman: This does not use the steam prefix like I thought

Red Faction II FAQ

2022-10-25T01:56:19Z

MartianMadman: add }}

Red Faction II FAQ

2022-10-25T01:55:48Z

MartianMadman: Add linux fix

Red Faction: Guerrilla FAQ

2022-10-23T12:44:36Z

MartianMadman: small edit

{{Under construction}}
This page provides fixes to commonly encountered issues, and answers to frequently asked questions.

It would be impossible to list absolutely every issue and question that may come up on this page. If you're facing an issue or have a question that doesn't appear on this page, please feel welcome to join the Red Faction Community Discord and ask it. It's extremely likely that someone there knows the answer and would be happy to help you.

'''[https://discord.gg/fRrUzuV Join the Red Faction Community Discord]'''

==Frequently Asked Questions==

===My game is crashing! How can I get help?===
{{Answer|If you're running the GoG version, try updating your game or use GoG Galaxy. Kaiko has indicated that some GoG users running older versions may experience crashes.}}

Otherwise, the best way to get help with these kinds of issues is to join [https://discord.gg/fRrUzuV the Red Faction Community Discord] and describe the issue you're facing.

===Where can I get a copy of Red Faction: Guerrilla?===
{{Answer|Red Faction: Guerrilla is available for purchase as a digital download or physical copy (CD).}}

'''Digital Download:'''
* [https://store.steampowered.com/app/667720/Red_Faction_Guerrilla_ReMarstered/ Steam]
* [https://www.gog.com/game/red_faction_guerrilla_remarstered GoG]

'''Physical Copy (CD):'''
* [https://www.amazon.com/Red-Faction-Guerrilla-Re-Mars-tered-DVD-Windows/dp/B07F7PWTYF0 Amazon]
* [https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?&_nkw=red+faction+guerrilla+pc eBay]
===Will Red Faction: Guerrilla run on my computer?===
{{Answer|The minimum recommended system requirements for Red Faction: Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered are listed below.

'''Official Red Faction: Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered Minimum System Requirements'''
* '''Operating System:''' Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10 (64bit)
* '''DirectX Version:''' DirectX 11
* '''Processor:''' Intel or AMD Dual Core CPU 2.5 GHz
* '''Memory:''' 4 GB RAM
* '''Video Card:''' DirectX 10 Feature Level AMD or NVIDIA Card with 1 GB VRAM
* '''Storage:''' 32 GB available space
}}
===What's the difference between Red Faction: Guerrilla Steam Edition and Red Faction: Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered?===
{{Answer|The key benefits of Red Faction: Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered over the original (Steam Edition) are listed below.

* Reworked graphics, adding specular mapping and other features
* Improved shadow rendering
* Improved lighting engine
* Rework of shader & postprocessing features
* Native 4k support
* Ability to reset destruction for all structures
* Previously multiplayer-exclusive features now available in single player - different sledgehammers, backpacks, and [[Reconstructor]] as examples
}}

===Why is RF:G or RF:GR multiplayer really laggy sometimes?===
{{Answer|Due to RF:G and RF:GR multiplayer using a peer-to-peer networking model, and the lack of traditional dedicated servers, the "server" is hosted by one of the players in a game. Because of this, gameplay will likely be laggy at times, depending on the performance and network connection of the player chosen as the host.
}}
===Can I host a dedicated server for RF:G or RF:GR?===
{{Answer|No, RF:G and RF:GR both use a peer-to-peer networking model - which effectively means that dedicated servers don't exist. The "server" is hosted by one of the individual players in the game.
}}
===Does anyone play RF:G or RF:GR multiplayer?===
{{Answer|While RF:G and RF:GR multiplayer isn't especially active, it does have players. Unfortunately, due to the playlist system and peer-to-peer networking model, it's often difficult to find other players to play with.
}}
The most reliable method of finding other RF:G or RF:GR players to play with is to join [https://discord.gg/fRrUzuV the Red Faction Community Discord] and use the ''#rfg-matchmaking'' channel to attempt to organize games. The Discord supports matchmaking across all platforms on which RF:G and RF:GR were released.
===I have an old disc copy of Red Faction: Guerrilla from when it first came out. Can I activate it on Steam?===
===Can I play Red Faction: Guerrilla in first person?===
{{Answer|Not natively, but two separate methods of playing RF:G in first person have been developed by the community. They're listed below, and we encourage you to join the [https://discord.gg/factionfiles FactionFiles Community Discord] if you have any further questions or would like some assistance configuring these mods.}}

* '''RSL script loader''', developed by '''Moneyl''' (Re-Mars-tered only!): [https://rsl.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Installation.html Installation guide for RSL]

* '''RFG 1st Person mod''', developed by '''MartianMadman''' (Re-Mars-tered and Classic): [https://github.com/MartianMadman/RFG_1stPerson Github page]

===Can I make custom maps/levels for Red Faction: Guerrilla?===
{{Answer|Unfortunately, the RF:G level editor ([[CLOE]]) was never released to the public.}}

No method currently exists for the community to create custom maps/levels for the game, however community developer [[moneyl]] has recently been doing some awesome work on software to view and explore the RF:G game world. You can read more about his project here: [[Nanoforge_(Tool)|Nanoforge]]

===Where can I find Red Faction: Guerrilla mods?===
{{Answer|[https://factionfiles.com FactionFiles.com] is the most extensive source of community-made mods and tools for Red Faction: Guerrilla. Some specific categories of community-made Red Faction: Guerrilla files from Faction Files are listed below.

While we try to maintain the most up-to-date list of community-made content at FactionFiles.com, you may also find RF:G mods on other sites, such as [https://www.nexusmods.com/redfactionguerilla/mods/ Nexus Mods].}}

'''Community File Categories:'''
* [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=files&file_category=4 Standalone Mods]
* [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=files&file_category=3 Tools]
* [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=files&file_category=29 Scripts for use with the RF:GR Script Loader]
* [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=files&file_category=16 Mods for use with the RF:G Steam Edition Mod Manager]
* [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=files&file_category=30 Mods for use with the RF:G Re-Mars-tered Mod Manager]
===How can I install and use Red Faction: Guerrilla mods?===
{{Answer|'''NOTE:''' We've tried to standardize the distribution format of mods on [https://factionfiles.com FactionFiles.com] to the greatest extent possible, and this guide assumes you're installing mods from there. These steps may not work for you if you obtained a mod from another source. That being said, RF:G has no built-in mod support to speak of, so it's very difficult to detail a consistent and reliable method of installation for them. If you run into issues using a mod or have questions, it's best to join the [https://discord.gg/fRrUzuV Red Faction Community Discord] for some assistance.}}

'''Installing Standalone Mods'''
* '''NOTE:''' As indicated above, RF:G has no built-in mod support whatsoever. The Mod Manager was developed to help with this, but Standalone Mods (ie. mods that don't use the mod manager) can vary greatly in format. As such, this guide should be seen as just a set of general guidelines. If you run into issues using a mod or have questions, it's best to join the [https://discord.gg/fRrUzuV Red Faction Community Discord] for some assistance.
* '''IMPORTANT:''' Before installing any Standalone Mods that require overwriting core game files (as most do), it is ''highly'' recommended that you save a backup copy of any affected files.
* Extract the files included in the standalone mod download to your game data directory and overwrite any existing files (Normally this will be '''C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Red Faction Guerrilla\build\pc\cache''' for Steam Edition, and '''C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Red Faction Guerrilla Re-MARS-tered\data''' for Re-Mars-tered)

'''Installing Mod Manager Mods'''
* Download and install the RF:G Mod Manager you need:
** [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=file&id=517005 Download Mod Manager for Steam Edition]
** [https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=file&id=517772 Download Mod Manager for Re-Mars-tered]
* Extract the folder for your Mod Manager-compatible mod to '''\mods\''' under the Mod Manager directory.
* '''IMPORTANT''': Ensure you extract the folder for the mod, not the contents of the folder. .xml files (or other files) for a specific mod need to be in a subdirectory for that mod under '''\mods\''', not directly in the '''\mods\''' folder itself.

===How can I get a copy of Red Faction: Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered for free on Steam?===
{{Answer|If you own Red Faction: Guerrilla (Original/Steam Edition) on Steam, you'll receive a free copy of Re-Mars-tered automatically.}}

===Can I import my save game file from Steam Edition to Re-Mars-tered?===
{{Answer|Yes! When starting the game for the first time, you will be asked if you wish to import any Steam Edition save game files. Alternatively, you can access this feature under Options -> Extras -> Import save data.}}

''Important:'' The "Import save data" option will only appear when the game found save data from the steam version in the default directory. Normally, this is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\<Your Steam ID>\20500\remote

===Where are RF:G and RF:GR's config and savegame files stored?===
{{Answer|Please reference the table below.}}

{| class="wikitable"
!File
!Original (GFWL) Edition
!Steam Edition
!Re-Mars-tered (Steam)
!Re-Mars-tered (GoG)
|-
!Config files
|%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Red Faction Guerrilla\Options\rfg_display_options.rfgs_pc
|%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Red Faction Guerrilla\Options\rfg_display_options.rfgs_pc
|%APPDATA%\kaiko\rfg\config.ini
|%APPDATA%\kaiko\rfg\config.ini
|-
!Savegame files
|%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Red Faction Guerrilla\Saves\
|<Steam-folder>\userdata\<user-id>\20500\remote\
|<Steam-folder>\userdata\<user-id>\667720\remote\
|%LOCALAPPDATA%\GOG.com\Galaxy\Applications\51153410217180642\Storage\Shared\Files\autocloud\save\
|-
|}

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